Closer Than They Appear

How do you go forward when the past is breathing down your neck? Carvell Wallace talks to Americans grappling with the state of the union while trying to reconcile his own family's fractured history. If America is an estranged family, this show is our awkward holiday dinner.

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Closer Than They Appear LIVE at the Seattle Art Museum, with Sondra Perry

Carvell went to Seattle to record a live episode of the show with visual artist Sondra Perry. They looked at images from her exhibit, “Eclogue for [in]HABITABILITY,” and talked about race, displacement, survival, and overcoming the limits of our imagination. Thank you to the Seattle Art Museum for inviting us!